NZ, Oz and Boks must welcome Argentinians

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Graham Henry

Blues Technical Advisor

7 months ago

It is hard to know where to look first with all the internationals being played this weekend, but I suspect that Ireland have the best chance of turning over one of the major southern hemisphere nations. South Africa are in transition, developing a team towards the next World Cup, and that makes them vulnerable.

I am sorry that injury means that Johan Goosen, who has been replaced at five eighth by Pat Lambie, is unable to tour. Goosen is going to be a world class player. We have seen it in glimpses already. Goosen is going to be a very influential part of South African rugby in the years to come.

The All Blacks should breeze past Scotland by a considerable score. By playing everyone in the first two matches, Steve Hansen will motivate all the players to earn selection for the game against Wales.

Scotland tend to try to play football and that gives the opposition a chance, especially on turnover ball. Italy may prove a harder proposition for the All Blacks next week because they are strong up front and just play a kick and chase game. They gave us a torrid battle a few years ago.

There has been some talk about the All Blacks front five being under pressure, the loss of Brad Thorn and the age of part of the front row. But I don’t see age as a barrier. Thorn himself proved that.

I had Martin Johnson with me on the 2001 Lions tour at the age of 31 and two years later he was hugely influential at the World Cup. There is no reason why players should not play into their mid thirties these days with the right mental attitude. Nobody played better than Thorn last year.

There has also been some talk about the New Zealand number nines and there is no doubt that Aaron Smith is a pretty special player. But people have been too quick to write off Piri Weepu. He has been criticised because he is slower than Smith, but Piri has a great understanding of the game. He changed the game when he came on against Argentina in Wellington this year and his vision my well be important if the All Blacks struggle to get on top up front against the likes of Wales and England.

Argentina have a big challenge against Wales, the best team in the Northern Hemisphere at the moment. One of the challenges for Argentina going forward, and for the IRB, is how to manage the issue of player release.

Most of the top Argentinian players are with French clubs and they have already missed several rounds because of the Championship. Now they are being called on for a further three weeks and not everyone is being released on the same weeks. This week Felipe Contepomi is in and Marcelo Bosch is back with his French club.

It is a problem for everyone. The French clubs won’t want to lose players for so long in the future and so they may be reluctant to employ Argentinians. The players are professionals and the French clubs are top payers. Argentina is a country that is trying to join the top nations. It is very difficult for everyone.

Going forward SANZAR may have to be flexible and admit Argentinian players into the Super 15 to play with New Zealand, Australian and South African teams. After the next World Cup SANZAR will need to look at the prospect of professional rugby in Argentina and the admission of two teams into the Super 15. We need to look at constructive solutions to a problem that will not go away.

Finally, I feel for Robbie Deans. Australia probably have a better team unavailable than the one that is on the pitch this weekend. But I do not have sympathy for Robbie. As a professional coach in rugby you just have to get on with it and do the business. Robbie’s career as coach of Australia depends on his side having a positive tour. First up against France is a tough place to start.

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Michael Goldstein

7 months ago

First, a belated thank you for your contributions to the sport over the years. I’ve been a huge admirer of NZ, NZ Rugby, and your coaching over the years. The criticism you’ve taken for working with the Pumas since retiring from the All Blacks is shocking for its wrong-headedness and jingoistic stupidity, and I trust it comes from a tiny minority. To anyone who’s watched the Pumas over the years, your impact on their play is obvious. I thought they were incredibly unlucky not to win two matches this year, and they were a joy to watch throughout the tournament. Winning will come in future years, I suspect, and the Rugby Championship will be an even better event (it’s pretty special now).

Your comments about Argentinians playing France are extremely well taken; however, in my view it’s a symptom of a larger problem in Rugby, especially Northern Hemisphere rugby. There are too many matches for too few players who are being pulled into too many competitions. The result is that the club matches, which have to be the foundation of the sport, are too often compromised. When I try to introduce other Yanks to this sport, I will generally only show them a Southern Hemisphere International (and generally the ABs). Northern hemisphere club matches are a particular problem, because if the marquis matches take place during International season, the second strings are battling it out. By consistently putting a second rate product on the pitch, pro Rugby is being extremely short-sighted, and will never break through into the top level of professional sports.

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Tony Healy

7 months ago

Michael, I would have hoped that you saw either Toulouse v Montpellier or Clermont v Toulon on the weekend and you would perhaps have a different opinion regarding club rugby during international matches. Tulouse had 9 full internationals playing in the game and Montpellier had a handful as well. Better yet, Clermont had 8 v Toulon’s armada of international stars – Johnny W, Bakies Botha, Sheridan, Hayman, Bruno, Tillos-Bordes, Giteau, Masoe, Armitages etc. The game was very high-paced and extremely exciting with a last second victory by Clermont. I do agree that The style played in the Southern hemisphere is more entertaining, but imagine what might happen if they were under the threat of relegation like the Northern hemisphere teams. Sponsor/ownership money would have a serious influence on the style of game played.

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Michael Goldstein

7 months ago

Tony, thanks for your comments. My NH rugby is pretty much restricted to the English Premiership and the RaboDirect or whatever the Celtic League is these days. I don’t watch the Top 14 outside of Heineken Cup play: mostly because they don’t show up on DirectTV in the US. Salaries for the Top 14 clubs are SUBSTANTIALLY higher than any other league in the world, so you’re seeing the results on the pitch. Maybe the Top 14 product is better during International season. I think my point about the clubs putting a poor product on the field stands for the other leagues.